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Philomena Gray's avatar

He'll always be the best PM we never had. 🍉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💜

Thomas Beavitt's avatar

Let me comment on this if I may, since I am still struggling to articulate a position on this issue. Of course everyone with a brain cell is against war, which is the worst thing that can happen to anyone. The only thing worse than fighting a war is losing one. As a "natural" pacifist, I agree with Benn's objections to war against Iraq.

On the other hand, I'm not sure if you can make exceptions just because you want to. Explain to me again why Nazi Germany was "worse" than the Anglo-American-Zionist empire today?

But lately I've come to see things somewhat differently. What if war is the default and peace the exception? Hobbes' thought is rather profound on this point. A state of nature is a war of all against all, in which human lives are nasty, brutish and short. Then any state is better than a state of nature (no state), but the best kind of state is a civilisation state.

The trouble with a civilisation state is it can only exist as such via mutual recognition with another civilisation state. And it can only achieve such mutual recognition from a clearly defined locus of sovereignty. That clearly defined locus of sovereignty must be legitimised not only by the state-forming people (as in a nation state), but also constituent minority peoples, as well as individual citizens per se.

Next month, I'm going to be presenting a paper at a conference, which will apply these criteria to the question of whether the collective west could achieve mutual recognition as a civilisation state in its own right. You probably already know the answer to this.

In my developing view, the exceptional state of peace between civilisation states is something earnestly to be desired. But this state is far from natural. Rather, it would appear as a local phenomenon, requiring full-time work to maintain it as such. Such work can be described in terms of the strategic sincerity that would be necessary for a civilisation state to recognise – and be recognised by – another civilisation state as such.

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